Thursday, September 18, 2008

Election Manipulation Prediction

On or about October 5th, Joe Biden will excuse himself from the ticket,citing health problems. He will be replaced by Hillary as the candidate for Vice President. This is timed to occur after the VP debate on 10/2. Perhaps Obama finally realized that he made a mistake with his choice and now wants to renege. There have been talks all weekend about how to proceed with this information about the potential switch.

Generally, the feeling is that we should all go ahead and get it out there to as many blog sites and personal email lists as is possible. Watch for blurbs about Biden’s "health problem" such aneurysm. Probably many of you have heard the same rumblings. However, at this point, with this inside info from the DNC, it looks like this Obama strategy will be a go. Therefore, it seems that the best strategy is to get out in front of this obama maneuver, spell it out in detail, and thereby expose it for the grand manipulation that it is. Hillary would be an idiot to let herself be used that way; if she wasn’t good enough first time . . . . . Isn’t it interesting how desperate they are getting now that Sarah Palin has come on the scene?


Anonymous said...

Funny, I was having basically the same thought, but it was about McCain and Palin.

I do not believe Obama would choose Hillary if he HAD to get another VP. Most Obama supporters did not and do not want Clinton as his VP.

The Sur-Realist said...

Well, you can bet your buttons McCain would not drop Palin - not when he has struck the payload. But in regard to your other comment, who else would Obama choose if not Hillary?

Anonymous said...

Maybe he would pick someone like Palin, but his someone will be able to answer and axctually know what they are talking about. I heard a comment on a cable news channel last night that McCain might have to drop Palin. I guess the media is beginning to think as I do. But I hope he keeps her because it energizes people to get out and get involved. When someone does something as dumb as choosing Palin, then you know they will do anything to win, and for people lime me, or of my mentality, well that makes it a fight. I am hitting the streets making sure people are registered and will vote.

The Sur-Realist said...

Don't rely on listening to the comments. Listen to the actual candidates themselves. Then you will learn who knows what. And don't forget, both Presidents Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton were "only" governors before becoming elected president.
The Sur-Realist has spoken.

Anonymous said...

I saw this information in an article posted on Also, it is noted that this is a rumor that is not confirmed, it i]list it as undetermined, and it might or might not be true, but the purpose was to undermind the Obama campaign. Obama supporters support Obama all the way. I would hate the choice of Clinton as a running mate, but if I support Obama, then I support his choices of a running mate.

I also saw on the same website this remark made by Sarah Palin,

Upon learning that Barack Obama had clinched the Democratic presidential nomination over Hillary Clinton, Sarah Palin exclaimed, "So Sambo beat the bitch!"

I guess we need to get out also.

Anonymous said...

This is what we want to read. Tell us about Wes.

Musgrove Camp Decries Scruggs Smear

Adam Lynchby Adam Lynch
September 30, 2008

Sen. Roger Wicker’s supporters at the National Republican Senatorial Committee are attempting to link his Democratic opponent, Ronnie Musgrove, with incarcerated lawyer Paul Minor, as well as Mississippi attorney Richard “Dickie” Scruggs, who pled guilty this year for attempting to bribe a Lafayette County Circuit Court judge for a favorable ruling in a dispute over $26.5 million in legal fees from a mass settlement of Hurricane Katrina cases. A U.S. District Court found Minor guilty of corruption in March 2007 for racketeering and bribery, along with former Judges Wes Teel and John Whitfield, for accepting the bribes.

“Paul Minor and Dickie Scruggs: trial lawyers who gave thousands to Ronnie Musgrove’s campaigns,” the NRSC ad states. “... Minor had so much influence with Musgrove, insiders called him ‘the judgemaker.’ Now Minor and Scruggs are in jail, convicted of trying to bribe a judge. Ronnie Musgrove: a record that makes you want to blush.”

Adam Bozzi, spokesman for the Musgrove campaign, said Musgrove has not received any contributions from either of the two during his Senate campaign.

“The money they’re referring to is from five or 10 years ago, maybe even longer. At the time there was no reason to suspect it,” Bozzi said.

A 2003 Biloxi Sun Herald article reported that Scruggs gave Musgrove $57,000 in 1999, while Minor gave Musgrove $112,000. Minor’s most recent contribution to Musgrove was a $4,125 donation for his 2002 gubernatorial campaign.

A federal jury convicted Minor of corruption in 2007, and Scruggs in 2008, well after Musgrove’s 2002 campaign. Scruggs also donated money to Republican campaigns, including those of his brother-in-law, former U.S. Sen Trent Lott, who retired the day before Scruggs was indicted last year..

Bozzi said the ads are “an attempt to cover Roger Wicker’s Washington practices of the corrupt ‘Pay-to-Play’ system,” the system of heavy lobbyist input in the creation of legislation. “He’s funneled millions of dollars in taxpayer earmarks to his top contributors,” Bozzi said.

A January Washington Post article revealed that Wicker, last year, obtained a $6 million earmark for a defense contractor, Aurora Flight Science, whose executives were among his top campaign contributors. Wicker’s former chief of staff even represented Aurora concerning the earmarks.

Minor’s attorney Hiram Eastland said the use of the ads lends credibility to his accusation that Minor’s prosecution was politically charged.

"The NRSC ad simply verifies that this has been a political prosecution all along, and the Republican Party is continuing to use these prosecutions to further their political goals,” Eastland said.

Mississippi Supreme Court Justice Chuck Easley said he believed DOJ agents were aiming investigations only at Democrats during the height of Minor’s trials.

"One agent interviewed me about possible investigations, and I had a ton of dirt on a lot of people, but they said they weren’t interested in them. She said they were only interested in me, (Supreme Court Justices Oliver) Diaz and (Chuck) McRae, not (Jim) Smith, (William) Waller or anybody else. They were only hunting people they thought were Democratic oriented," Easley said.

The DOJ routinely leaked investigation details to the press throughout the investigation, notably details pertaining to Democrats.

Ryan Annison, spokesman for the Wicker campaign, said he knew nothing about the ads and directed all calls to the NRSC. “Not only do we have nothing to do with them (the NRSC), but it’s illegal for us to have anything to do with them. We learn about them the same way you do, by watching them on TV,” Annison said.

Rebecca Fisher, communications director for the NRSC, did not immediately respond to information requests.

Minor, Teel and Whitfield are appealing their convictions, arguing that Republican-appointed prosecutors, working with Ronald Reagan-appointed U.S. District Judge Henry Wingate, convinced the court to push a corruption trial without proof of an exchange of goods money or services, or quid pro quo.

The jury convicted Minor specifically of financing judges’ campaign loans in exchange for favorable rulings, though none of the judges requested to oversee any of the cases Minor was working on. Also, prosecutors did not have to prove that either of the judges' decisions in Minor’s cases were illogical. None of the plaintiffs in the cases in question, for that matter, filed to remove the judges for suspicious behavior or political connection with Minor.

The U.S. Congress is currently investigating allegations of political-based prosecutions by the DOJ under President George Bush and former White House Chief of Staff Karl Rove. Rove is ducking congressional subpoenas to appear before the congressional committee regarding the investigation and is currently in contempt of Congress.

Minor is not the only attorney charging the DOJ with targeting Democrats. Former Alabama Gov. Don Siegelman, who was convicted of corruption in 2006—also without the necessity of proving quid pro quo—is out on appeal alleging political persecution. Siegelman is petitioning Congress this week to get Rove’s contempt citation up for a vote and is pushing votes for final passage.

“We know Rove’s master plan for his America was to create a permanent Republican majority ... apparently by any means necessary. Rove has praised his ‘friend’ Harriet Miers—the same Harriet Miers who has now admitted she broke the law in stacking the U.S. Department of Justice with Rove clones. She has admitted creating a right-wing political litmus test even for those (who) worked at the lowest levels of DOJ,” Siegelman wrote in a Sept. 24 letter.

“We know that U.S. attorneys were used to prosecute seven times more Democrats than Republicans; we know that U.S. attorneys like David Iglesias were fired because they wouldn't play along with this White House’s attempt to shape the outcomes of elections; we know from sworn testimony that Karl Rove was involved in using the DOJ as a political weapon to destroy Democrats who were unbeatable at the polls.”

Siegelman accuses Rove of working with Alabama Republicans to tamper with state voting machines, which switched votes to Siegelman’s opponent in 2002—oddly without affecting any down-ticket races. Voters who chose Democrats on every other race mysteriously voted for the Republican gubernatorial candidate after Republican operatives were left alone with voting machines on the night of the election.

A new 356-page report from the Department of Justice’s inspector general and the Office of Professional Responsibility outline charges of alleged politicization of the justice system by the Bush administration.

The report, “An Investigation into the Removal of Nine U.S. Attorneys in 2006,” contains a painful assessment of then-Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and concludes that political considerations played a part in the firings of at least four of the nine prosecutors, despite the denials of the administration at the time of the controversy.

Former New Mexico U.S. Attorney David Iglesias claimed he was fired for not pursuing unsubstantiated voter fraud and corruption cases against New Mexico Democrats. The White House has refused to turn over internal documents and major players in the investigation, including Rove, former White House Counsel Miers, and former Justice Department liaison Monica M. Goodling.

© Jackson Free Press, Inc.

Anonymous said...

From :

From the Docket in the Paul Minor case

07-60751 USA v. Minor

9/30/08 COURT Order filed: Fed.R.App.P.9(a). Accordingly, IT IS
ORDERED that Whitfield's motion for release pending appeal
is DENIED WITHOUT PREJUDICE. If Whitfield seeks relief
from the district court and is denied, he may seek review
of the district court's order in this court "by filing a
motion in the court of appeals." Fed.R.App.P.9(b). IT IS
ORDERED that Teel's motion for release pending appeal is
DENIED WITHOUT PREJUDICE. If Teel seeks relief from the
district court and is denied, he may seek review of the
district court's order in this court "by filing a motion in
the court of appeals." Fed.R.App.P.9(b). (IN DETAIL)
[6097954-1] in 07-60748, [6097956-1] in 07-60774 (PRO)
Copies to all counsel. [07-60748, 07-60774] (ddv)
[07-60748 07-60774]

Anonymous said...

What is the date, has Oct 5, passed or what? Maybe you was talking about 4 years from now

Anonymous said...

Obama and Biden. We the people did it.

The Sur-Realist said...

Yes, you the people, along with the cheating ACORN workers, have managed to set this country on a course for annihilation from the outside.